ebstjohn · Feb 19, 2009, 10:30 PM // 22:30

I've been playing for 3 years, but I'm not what I would call a die hard gammer. Thus, my hours of play are not as much as I'm sure many of you. This is probably a noob question, but does the order in which I load skills on my Heros skill bar make any difference in how they use the skills?

I'm trying to do a dungeon and I need Vekk to use the Ward of Stability skill, but it seems like I always have to manually click this skill rather than the AI using it. I've tried various orders of the skills, but it doesn't seem to help. I've assigned a 9 Earth Magic so it can't be that he doesn't have any skill levels assigned to the skill.

I'm growing frustrated...sigh.

Hanging Man · Feb 19, 2009, 10:40 PM // 22:40

no
any order you put them in doesn't mean anything.

Unfortunately heroes are dumb, and will use skills when ever they want unless you manually make them.

Stick to clicking

Thunderkrakker · Feb 19, 2009, 11:27 PM // 23:27

It doesn't matter for heroes.

dasmitchies · Feb 19, 2009, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Above answer= epic fail. The order does matter left to right, with left given priority. However, Hero AI is really buggy and will give priority to those skills ANET thinks is most important, such as heals, corpse exploitation, interrupts, elite skills, ETC. Some spell types such as wards even when placed on the left side will always be ignored for other actions due to low AI priority. That is why builds such as Sabway and Discordway are so popular, they most fully exploit the AI's ridiculousness. You will have to do this manually to make it work. I also disable all of my hero rez skills due to this behavior.

HawkofStorms · Feb 19, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40

Agreed dasmitchies.
Heroes prioritize skills from left to right.

Stealth Bomberman · Feb 19, 2009, 11:59 PM // 23:59

if you use quick keys (1-8 instead of clicking), which is better more reliable and faster, then you should put your important skills on the left and secondary skills further right.

Age · Feb 20, 2009, 12:04 AM // 00:04

The better way is by pressing them and and setting them up like this 1,2,3,4,E=5,R=6,T=7 and Q=8.This is how I do it.

Icy The Mage · Feb 20, 2009, 12:12 AM // 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasmitchies

Above answer= epic fail. The order does matter left to right, with left given priority. However, Hero AI is really buggy and will give priority to those skills ANET thinks is most important, such as heals, corpse exploitation, interrupts, elite skills, ETC. Some spell types such as wards even when placed on the left side will always be ignored for other actions due to low AI priority. That is why builds such as Sabway and Discordway are so popular, they most fully exploit the AI's ridiculousness. You will have to do this manually to make it work. I also disable all of my hero rez skills due to this behavior.

100% True.

This is also why heroes will not resurrect party members in-battle (with a few exceptions) until they're the only one left standing at about 25% health. Also, if you call a target, more priority is given to skills that have the most - effect on the enemy, eg. Discord & Signet of Lost Souls.

Gigashadow · Feb 20, 2009, 12:22 AM // 00:22

Heroes do NOT prioritize left to right. You can test this yourself, and in fact I just did. For example, make an elementalist with 9 in each attribute, and put only the 4 attunements on your skill bar. Then go outside and see which order it casts them in; it will cast them in a random order each time. In order words, when there is no external reason to cast any one skill over any other, the priority is random and NOT related to the order in which they appear on the skill bar.

It does have its own priority system of course (for example, if you put elemental attunement and fire attunement on your bar, it will always cast elemental attunement first regardless of its position; this is because the AI likes elite skills), but position does not appear to have anything to do with it, and is not a tie breaker.

MarlinBackna · Feb 20, 2009, 12:22 AM // 00:22

I prioritize left to right, but that is because I have a Ideazon Fang (gamepad), which has 2 rows of 6 for numbers, so 1-6 are for skills I use a lot of and 7-8 are for resurrects and/or long/maintained enchantments.

But in terms of hero skills, you just kinda have to deal with it unfortunately. You can map specific hero skills to a button combo, but if you don't like pressing buttons then I don't know how I can help.

warrior running · Feb 20, 2009, 02:37 AM // 02:37

it doesnt matter but i usualy prioritize skills in combos

Feb 19, 2009, 10:30 PM // 22:30	#1
ebstjohn Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2008 Guild: HAWK Profession: W/R	Does the order of skills on skill bar matter? I've been playing for 3 years, but I'm not what I would call a die hard gammer. Thus, my hours of play are not as much as I'm sure many of you. This is probably a noob question, but does the order in which I load skills on my Heros skill bar make any difference in how they use the skills? I'm trying to do a dungeon and I need Vekk to use the Ward of Stability skill, but it seems like I always have to manually click this skill rather than the AI using it. I've tried various orders of the skills, but it doesn't seem to help. I've assigned a 9 Earth Magic so it can't be that he doesn't have any skill levels assigned to the skill. I'm growing frustrated...sigh.

Feb 19, 2009, 10:40 PM // 22:40	#2
Hanging Man Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Deep in the Shire	no any order you put them in doesn't mean anything. Unfortunately heroes are dumb, and will use skills when ever they want unless you manually make them. Stick to clicking

Feb 19, 2009, 11:27 PM // 23:27	#3
Thunderkrakker Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orlando Guild: [UJ] United Jedi Profession: Mo/	It doesn't matter for heroes.

Feb 19, 2009, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#4
dasmitchies Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: W/P	Above answer= epic fail. The order does matter left to right, with left given priority. However, Hero AI is really buggy and will give priority to those skills ANET thinks is most important, such as heals, corpse exploitation, interrupts, elite skills, ETC. Some spell types such as wards even when placed on the left side will always be ignored for other actions due to low AI priority. That is why builds such as Sabway and Discordway are so popular, they most fully exploit the AI's ridiculousness. You will have to do this manually to make it work. I also disable all of my hero rez skills due to this behavior.

Feb 19, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40	#5
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Agreed dasmitchies. Heroes prioritize skills from left to right.

Feb 19, 2009, 11:59 PM // 23:59	#6
Stealth Bomberman Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2008	if you use quick keys (1-8 instead of clicking), which is better more reliable and faster, then you should put your important skills on the left and secondary skills further right.

Feb 20, 2009, 12:04 AM // 00:04	#7
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	The better way is by pressing them and and setting them up like this 1,2,3,4,E=5,R=6,T=7 and Q=8.This is how I do it.

Feb 20, 2009, 12:22 AM // 00:22	#9
Gigashadow Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bellevue, WA Profession: W/	Heroes do NOT prioritize left to right. You can test this yourself, and in fact I just did. For example, make an elementalist with 9 in each attribute, and put only the 4 attunements on your skill bar. Then go outside and see which order it casts them in; it will cast them in a random order each time. In order words, when there is no external reason to cast any one skill over any other, the priority is random and NOT related to the order in which they appear on the skill bar. It does have its own priority system of course (for example, if you put elemental attunement and fire attunement on your bar, it will always cast elemental attunement first regardless of its position; this is because the AI likes elite skills), but position does not appear to have anything to do with it, and is not a tie breaker.

Feb 20, 2009, 12:22 AM // 00:22	#10
MarlinBackna Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2007 Guild: [TAM] Profession: W/	I prioritize left to right, but that is because I have a Ideazon Fang (gamepad), which has 2 rows of 6 for numbers, so 1-6 are for skills I use a lot of and 7-8 are for resurrects and/or long/maintained enchantments. But in terms of hero skills, you just kinda have to deal with it unfortunately. You can map specific hero skills to a button combo, but if you don't like pressing buttons then I don't know how I can help.

Feb 20, 2009, 02:37 AM // 02:37	#11
warrior running Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2008 Guild: The Cape Is A Lie[Trim] Profession: W/E	it doesnt matter but i usualy prioritize skills in combos